Shorting the us stock market crash

I am not sure why Marfa was chosen.

Maybe because holding it in the middle of nowhere worked like a filter. Three months ago, when looking at the Q of Carl Icahn's hedge fund vehicle , Icahn Enterprises, L. IEP we found something striking: Carl Icahn had put his money where his mouth was. Recall that over the past year, Carl Icahn had become one of the most vocal market bears with a series of increasingly escalating forecasts.

At first, he was mostly pessimistic about junk bonds, saying last May that " what's even more dangerous than the actual stock market is the high yield market. However, even as other prominent billionaires piled onto the bearish side, the market soared. And then, after Q1, it soared some more to the point where as of the end of June, following the brief Brexit dump, it was just shy of all time highs where it is now.

So there was renewed speculation if Icahn had given up on his record bearish bet. So when overnight IEP released its latest Q, we were eager to find out if Carl had unwound his record short, or perhaps, added more to it.

Changes in exposure as a result of purchases and sales as well as adverse changes in market value would also have an effect on funds available to us pursuant to prime brokerage lines of credit.

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This would be offset by a release of restricted cash balances collateralizing these positions as well as an increase in funds available to us pursuant to certain prime brokerage lines of credit. For our counterparties who do not require cash collateral, funds available from lines of credit would decrease. There was little incremental detail.

And so the significant weighting to the short side reflects that. Perhaps this time he will be right. Be careful shorting the market.

He was probably screwed out of a million dollars. He should have made , and lost , due to all the rigging and total bullshit as the markets should have kept on tanking. Many of the issuing houses would have been bankrupted if the trades had not been broken; and the entire derivatives complex may have unwound entirely leading to an end of the EuroDollar system.

But, hey -the criminals at Goldman, DB, Credit Suisse, Citi, BAC, etc. I buy deep out of the money puts for each month knowing full well someday the U. The bankers have known for ages the jig is up and the biggest fear for people is missing out on an opportunity like this one. You don't short the market you play the biggest crash of all time. That's why I get it right and Carl gets it wrong. That will never happen.

I know the plunge protection team knows they'll lose a fortune trying to prop up the market when it can only fall off a cliff. I know they'll double-cross everyone except me when they short the market indexes as they fall when the big one hits. They're just like the kid with their finger in the dam and they know it.

In regards to the "the markets" being closed two weeks to a month, one might want to look back a century to when it closed for a slightly longer time, namely from July 30 to December 12, And, one should not forget about how it may be difficult to transact any trades if another banking holiday happens:. They could not withdraw or transfer their money, nor could they make deposits.

Given how long this bs has been going on, chances of something like that appear non existent. The central banker driven con game could last an entire generation. I have a few shorts and some gold miner stocks. I am seriously considering exiting all short positions whenever the next pullback happens and just keep my miners.

Long gold seems like the only viable contrary bet in this freak show of a market. The trade was reversed and the brokerage told me to pound sand citing some techno babble 'error.

Fuck the rigged Casino. I made two exceptions the past year: Both massively profitable and all based on technicals.

Two trades a year and enough to live like a king. But the fear of manipulation is there. On the Aug 24 trade the exchange involved rule 48 on quotes and lost half my profits as market makers showed bad quotes. You're a smart motherfucker and definitely have your head on straight, but for god's sake Bet on volatility, 3x inverse ETF's based on inflated paper assets, bet on 3x etf's based on assets with staying power, any of that is good once the paper hits the fan.

In the meantime, it's anyone's guess, but don't sit there and pretend the markets aren't heading towards a bad fucking time.

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I get happier when PM's get cheaper since I know where they will be in a few years Does Icahn give any reason why he is shorting aggressively? There is really no thesis here except a Biblical "day of reckoning"--for what?

Trump also told Americans that the market was going to tank. Trump had announced, at one time, that he had offered Icahn the Treasury Secretary position. At this time, however, TPTB will do whatever possible to keep the market from falling, at least until the election is over,because the banksters and military profiteers are pushing hard a third term for the Clintons, and, by proxy, for Obama.

I think Trump is partly covering his ass. You know if he gets elected they will take the market down. Can you imagine the shitstorm Trump would have if Icahn was on his cabinet? Headline ''Trump Team Short Market, Collapse Imminent If Elected'. Actually that might get him some votes. There was corruption before Obama and there will be corruption after him.

By focusing on the Obama, you lose site of the real mechanism here.

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Remember the trend that if the market tanks, the incumbents lose. I go with Icahn We had one guy reffering to Hillary as Bill's cum dumpster earlier today. The bar has been set. I'll have to drink a fifth of Tanqueray to scrub that vision.

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Thanks a pant load! Who would possibly ever stoop that low? I've woken up next to a 'surprise' here and there Good luck after the election is over. I hope you're still there for me because I'll be percent short. Bought more PMs today. I bought more TP. When the endtimes come, they'll be worth more than gold. Here's our Cookie Policy. How to report offensive comments.

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Date - newest first Date - oldest first. Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes. Icahn talks his book Been there, doing that since Cash Is King 38BWD22 Aug 5, 2: The Real Tony 38BWD22 Aug 5, 3: Doom Porn Star 38BWD22 Aug 5, 3: RaceToTheBottom Doom Porn Star Aug 6, The Real Tony 38BWD22 Aug 5, 2: The only risk I see in your strategy is if your counterparties disappear or otherwise default.

What if you cannot put it to them when the markets re-open? Salsa Verde 38BWD22 Aug 5, 2: We are not in The Club. TradingTroll 38BWD22 Aug 5, 7: Anyway, a big drop is probably coming but we may crest 20, Dow first.

We should have had a big downdraft by October. NoVa slaughterer Aug 5, 1: NumberNone Paul Kersey Aug 5, 3: RaceToTheBottom Paul Kersey Aug 6, Corruption is the norm, not the exception.

Justawhoaman Paul Kersey Aug 6, 3: I want to see which way Congresswoman Chu is positioned today before I decide. Philo Beddoe mary mary Aug 5, 1: Over a desk with the 3 ball in her mouth. Or, were you referring to something else? Baby Eating Dingo22 Philo Beddoe Aug 5, 1: Just way below even my standards. Philo Beddoe knukles Aug 5, 2: Jerky Miester Philo Beddoe Aug 5, 2: Croesus Philo Beddoe Aug 5, 2: For you players, who know what "hoggin" is Paul John Smith maskone Aug 5, 1: RaceToTheBottom Paul John Smith Aug 6, Eventually, they will have to sell Yellowsotne National park.

It will be a "I will buy yours, if you buy mine" situation The Real Tony buzzsaw99 Aug 5, 2: The Real Tony buzzsaw99 Aug 5, 3: Thanks the first one I'm shorting is Teck Corporation up in Canada at the end of this September. GunnerySgtHartman buzzsaw99 Aug 5, 2: Delving Eye GunnerySgtHartman Aug 5, 3: Create new account Request new password.

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