Make money with monavie

Lazy Man and Money. May 31, by Lazy Man 6, Comments. MonaVie has threatened legal action against me twice in an attempt to prevent you from reading this article below. The original article about my introduction to MonaVie is preserved here.

The short answer is yes. It is perhaps the most incredible example of deceptive marketing in the history of mankind. Typically when people are interested in MonaVie, they are focused on two things: After all, the promise of MonaVie marketing is health and wealth for you and all your friends.

There are a couple more issues with regard to MonaVie an ORAC values. High on the list is that MonaVie lies about the ORAC score of MonaVie. They published two widely different scores.

Many distributors make the claim that drinking 4 ounces of MonaVie is like eating 13 fruits and thus is a way to save money. This is a huge lie. In this statement, the antioxidant capacity is measured ORAC value, and the equivalent fruits and vegetables are not even mentioned.

To follow up on the above, a single apple has the antioxidant capacity of 9. If a person was relying on four ounces of MonaVie to give them the equivalent of 13 fruits, they are making a huge nutritional error as 13 apples has the equivalent ORAC value as ounces of MonaVie. A consortium of U. The result is that 4 ounces of MonaVie is a Serving of fruit which looks like 1 snack container of applesauce 4oz or about 6 baby carrots. What do national doctors have to say? Andrew Weil gives a thumbs down on MonaVie , Dr.

Dean Edell calls MonaVie worthless , and Dr. Joe Schwarcz warns against acai health claims. These are all unbiased, nationally-recognized doctors. I could continue to give facts about the lack of nutrition in MonaVie, but perhaps the creator of MonaVie itself is one of the best sources.

The Salt Lake Tribune reported this interesting information that came out from a lawsuit with Amway: The memo was in response to raised eyebrows about claims being made about the juice. Any claims made are purely hypothetical, unsubstantiated and, quite frankly, bogus. Another aspect to consider is that juice itself is shown not to be healthy. For years we thought it was healthy, but that thinking has changed and many view soda and juice as being the same. The HBO documentary Weight of a Nation clearly spells this out.

Here are some key quotes from that video: A Twinkie or a potato chip or a candy bar has at least a little nutrition. When you take fruit and you squeeze it, you throw the fiber in the garbage. That was the good part of the fruit. The processing has stripped out the fiber… the good part of the fruit. Well that calories a day does add up… in a year it is MonaVie adds a special ingredient or two to its basic juice to create a juice for a specific purpose.

The above illustrated the minimal value of the juice alone. In four ounces of MonaVie Active there are mg of glucosamine. It takes two tablets to equal the mg of glucosamine in MonaVie Active, which comes out to 12 cents a day.

With this noted, scientific research shows that it probably is not worth buying glucosamine at all. In four ounces of MonaVie Pulse there are 0. On Amazon, I found CholestOff , which actually has 0. What about the resveratrol? While plant sterols have been shown to the FDA to help cholesterol levels, resveratrol remains and unknown… A couple of articles show that we might need to wait for legit evidence on resveratrol.

Four ounces of MonaVie M mun has mg of Wellmune in it. Once again, I went to Amazon and found Immune Health Basics , which has mg of Wellmune. Since this is double the amount in MonaVie, the true cost per serving would be a little more than 31 cents. When I last looked into Wellmune, around the time that MonaVie announced M mun , research as to whether it was helpful was conflicting. One study of people found that they missed no more sick days than the placebo group when taking the product.

MonaVie MX — This MonaVie juice has the star ingredients of Active glucosamine and M mun Wellmune. Also, in addition to the basic 19 fruit juices in the juice it has 11 vegetables. MonaVie Kosher is a basic juice with no star ingredients that has been certified Kosher.

Bottom Line on MonaVie Nutrition: Any way you slice it pun intended , MonaVie is not a good source of nutrition when compared to time-tested advice of just eating fruits and vegetables. The examples I gave of a single person spending thousands more than equivalent product is multiplied when you consider a family of four.

While the talk of many, many testimonials may seem convincing, such testimonials are typical with any MLM product, especially health ones.

The fact that you can many testimonials for dozens of other MLM products shows that these testimonials are not unique to MonaVie products… or any ingredients in those products. For more details see: MonaVie is sold via multi-level marketing also known as MLM.

MLM and the Reality of Saturation — Recruiting people into MonaVie is where the Diamonds make their money. The problem is that the market is already saturated. In order to get there you have to build thousands of people under you and if those people wanted to be juice salesmen they would have been long before now.

MLMs replace these people with new hopefuls because their sales pitch is enticing. When MonaVie recruits someone they tell them that they too can have health and wealth for them and all their friends. The scheme churns through people every year with enough people quitting and joining so that the pyramid scheme never explodes past the population of the earth.

The circumstances surrounding the system set people up to fail. I was shocked as distributors left comments connecting MonaVie to helping with cancer, autism, fibromyalgia, and just about any and every other medical condition under the sun.

MonaVie has not been approved by the FDA to help with such conditions making these claims illegal. The FDA warned the company about website claims to treat various diseases such as cancer, arthritis, and Attention Deficit Disorder caused their products to be in violation of the law.

The company continued to sell the product and the FDA and Department of Justice fined the company millions and went as far as destroying the product. The action essentially put an end to Dynamic Essentials. He tells this convincing story how Dynamic Essentials is part of a publicly traded company with products in Wal-Mart and that they found this fascinating ingredient called Limu Moui. He goes on to essentially claim that limu that unique benefits to help with the system.

MonaVie, is an identical copy-cat of Royal Tongan Limu juice, but with acai instead of limu. MonaVie refuses this logical solution that would prevent consumers from be defrauded out of their hard-earned money and still allow them to get the product to those who were interested in it. Mitch Biggs should know better. My goal was to find out how MonaVie would enforce the its policies and procedures which allow it to end a distributorship who is caught making illegal claims.

Or would MonaVie cave, not wanting to create a rift amongst its distributors? Mitch Biggs Scams People and MonaVie Condones It. I decided to go an look and see if MonaVie is still letting Mitch Biggs be a distributor, which lead me to this video on a local news show. The spot even took the effort to bring a vase of 13 fruits to illustrate the deception. If this is the stuff that is going on in the open, imagine what is going on behind closed doors!

Some may suggest that this is an isolated case — one example of a bad seed that every industry has. It is a systematic problem which is so prevalent that Dr. The distributors have to come up with some way to market the obscenely overpriced product. They are naturally going to try to make a point that it is a value for consumers as a replacement for medicine or something seemingly expensive like buying a vase of 13 fruits.

I also think I covered a lot of it above. Here are a few others:. MonaVie relies heavily on their Scientific Advisory Board, specifically Dr. Schauss has a long list of reputation problems. One of them was that he faked his credentials and got a mail-order PhD degree from California Coast University. MonaVie pitched Schauss as an expert on acai, but they are the only ones who recognized him for anything like this.

The reality is that Schauss was the supplier of his OptiAcai brand to MonaVie. In fact, MonaVie product specialist Erica Bryant wrote distributors to tell them that AIBMR is the only source of that they should use. Tellingly, the final conclusion of the study made mention of another study that showed that eating fruit had positive results as well. The best way to put an end to this scam is to go to the FTC Complaint Assistant and file a complaint.

A recent article on CNBC had comments from the FTC saying that few people file complaints on these schemes and thus they rarely put in the resources to investigate them. There are two reasons why there are so few complaints:.

If you do, please sent me a quick mail. MonaVie has started marketing to college students and those who have recently graduated. These are probably the worst candidates for such overpriced MLM products. They have little income and often high student loans.

I wrote a whole article about MonaVie Mynt. This article itself is a constant work in progress. Publication deadlines force me to publish this without proofreading.

However, at this point, it does more to help people to get this information in their hands quickly and that means saving some of the editing for another day.

May 14, at 4: May 16, at 9: May 17, at 7: Thank you for this article. She was surprised when it shot to the higher end of antioxidants level of green. Blue and Purple are the highest level, yellow and red being at the lowest end. I got the pitch about how her daughter had cancer and this product helped her feel better, how it replaces the nutritive value of servings of fruits and vegetables and on and on.

I can sure juice, eat, bake, cook and whatnot a heck of a lot of natural fruits and veggies for that price and get a lot more nutrition from them. For that kind of money, I should buy beef from the woman selling grass-fed, no antibiotic, no hormone beef! May 17, at 8: Then create the problem and then attempt to sell the cure.. This is a completely useless measure that is indicative of pretty much nothing of relevance to health or overall antioxidant status.

Monavie makes money selling the device to the dummies who buy it, and then they make money again when the dummies who buy it use it to convince other dummies to buy into the scam.

May 19, at 9: Instead of alerting the the plebs. Play MonaVie for what it really is a scam to help you get more money. I reckon that will turn even more people away. The internet is my play ground. July 9, at Loved reading all your research…. About 20 years ago my boyfriend in college took me home to meet his parents and they pitched Amway to us, urging us to quit school to sell it.

July 15, at July 18, at Just like with any other supplement available at GNC, Walgreens, Walmart, etc. My husband swears by Vitamin C and takes a supplement daily. I, however, see no noticeable effects from taking it.

Are Vitamin C tablets a scam? I would say so, but he would not. There are too many people with too many stories of how this product has helped them in their daily lives for you to claim that it is not of benefit.

Nothing wrong with that…. Who am I or YOU to say something is overpriced, when obviously there is a market for the product. We have not found another product that gives us the same benefits or tastes as good as Mona Vie.

That too, is subjective as nobody is forced into going into the business part of it. Check out every outside sales job posted on Monster…promises of easy six-figures and untold bonuses and riches! As with any JOB, it all depends on the amount of effort you are willing to put into it. July 19, at 9: There are reasons why so many people are claiming that MonaVie worked for them: There are lot more people making illegal claims that you say.

I showed in the an article that people making the most money are doing it and when notified, MonaVie does nothing to take their ill-gotten marketing away. They are simply people commenting here and point me to other sites with claims. One is too many. Put it in the store and see if people still pay for it. If the product is good then this is the easiest way to eliminate the people making illegal claims. MonaVie is meant to be drunk at home as it requires refrigeration. The lady showing off her Vuitton bag or the guy showing off his equivalent bling not sure what that is is typically doing it because it is a status symbol.

This high price has a trickle-down effect of people claiming that it works as medicine because medicines can sell for high prices, but juice typically can not.

You should be able to speak about the MLM part of the business if you are going to capitalize JOB like all the other MLMers. No one is forced to buy my time-machine either. The jobs posted on Monster are real jobs with real work being done.

Furthermore, success in those jobs is determine by output produced. The people who are making 6-figures in MLM are running illegal pyramid schemes according to the FTC guidelines: Pyramid schemes are illegal, and the vast majority of participants lose money.

Readers of this website are looking for how to maximize the use of the money they have and learn about legit ways of making more money. January 8, at 1: A distributor gave me a free bottle of Monavie when I had an abscess in my colon and told me this was a miracle juice from the acai berry that had amazing healing powers. In fact, I had to wonder if this juice was adding to the Prednisone I was taking since the sugar content was so high.

By the end of the bottle I advised my distributor that he had a very tasty juice but the company needed to drop the claims about this thing curing anything. The marketing is way off and makes no sense. In the end, Monavie folded and its claims were proven false when the FDA and other researchers tested it. July 19, at In reality, the efficacy of a vitamin C supplement is not subjective.

The purpose of the vitamin C supplement is to provide vitamin C, not to correct a disease or cause you to feel anything. If the product contains the advertised amount of vitamin C, then it has fulfilled its purpose. Problems arise when unscrupulous supplement companies, like Monavie, skirt the regulations and promise things that their products cannot deliver. There is a word that describes distributors who go around making fantastic unverifiable snakeoil wonder-cure claims about Monavie — and that word is A-HOLE.

All it really has to do to work is be wet and fruity. Any expectation beyond that is not only an idiotic pipe-dream but evidence of an illegal conspiracy to defraud consumers.

But I can instantly write you off. If the product was doing anything worthwhile it would have been thoroughly documented already through scientific studies and published medical case reports.

But instead all we get is the same old dodgy BS fairy tales from disembodied anonymous voices like yours. Monavie is akin to a green garbage bag that some lunatic bag lady i. The inventor of Monavie already told us as did commonsense that the juice is analogous to a green garbage bag, and yet here you are still trying to peddle this fantasy about it being a Louis purse — a fantasy, incidentally, that would be readily expected from a Monavie distributor, not a customer.

That kind of behavior is delusional enough to merit pity, but ultimately I can feel no pity for a con artist. Yep, I guessed right. The company is using this shitty joke of a juice as part of a bait-and-switch entry fee into a pyramid scheme.

MonaVie Scam

What a sad, sad existence. I have more respect for drug dealers and prostitutes. July 19, at 6: Let me give you a little advice for the future.

Lazy is trying to help people, and only a troubled mind could possibly perceive that the way that you have. Consider, or ponder one thing… if the Acai berry was that good, and the juice that awesome… do you think for a second that the major juice companies would stand by and let an earth shaking, life changing, universe altering opportunity be monopolized by Mona Vie? Why not use Energize you think..

I hate the stuff it tastes like turds. If I want energy I look for Gaurana… wonder if MV has any of that in it? Doctors said I would be living with this for the rest of my life and none of the cancer treatments worked.

August 7, at You might get a kick out of this article from Alan Agaron comparing MonaVie to Charlie Shaw wine also known as Two-Buck Chuck. August 7, at 1: Such a terrible comparison as they are not in the same area of beverages, but he does his best to make it work. August 7, at 2: August 7, at 6: Zanka no Tachi says. August 26, at The products that I have seen have profoundly benefited a lot of people however operates under a MLM business model. When I look for these type of products, they are no where to be found in beauty shops, pharmaceuticals or health shops.

Zrii, MonaVie, Protandim, Vemma, Nopalea, Asea, Xocai, Xango, Xowii, Jusuru, etc. August 27, at 8: I tell them it had something nutritional in it my body was missing to heal itself. I put my finger on several fruits and in the machine and got a low score. This was after I was allergic to 3 different medications.

August 27, at 9: Mathematical analysis of the MonaVie Income and Disclosure Statement shows that So maybe you 1 of the 46 in 10, who make money. I could also show how it is mathematically a very bad idea to play the lottery.

It would still be true even if a lottery winner shows up and says his experience is otherwise. You think carrying around bananas all day is going to do anything. Do you think soaking your hand in fruit juice is going to help you.

What you are measuring is not related to how healthy a particular food is. You should have just linked them to this article all those years ago. I could claim that I have a talking unicorn in my garage. I could challenge you to disprove it, but it would be ridiculous to expect you to do such a thing.

You are working backwards, and anyone with a PhD in biochemistry would tell you so… if it really is a credible story and not a fable.

The scanner you are referring to is one that has been disproved in this space almost a year ago. The method does not measure any other type of antioxidants including all water-soluble antioxidants or distinguish between beta-carotene and other carotenodids like lutein, lycopene, zeaxanthin, etc.

The scanner has no clinical or diagnostic value whatsoever and buying it would be a colossal waste of money. August 30, at The immoral asshats at Monavie are still at it, trying to fleece the public with fake CNN new reports trumpeting the faux-lanthropy of the MORE Project.

MonaVie Scam Ends - Ethan Vanderbuilt

There is a special place in hell for people who use orphans and poor kids in Brazil to camouflage a blatant con game. This one really caught my eye because it included hysterically idiotic statements like the following:. September 3, at 4: I attended a recruting event as suggested by my chiropractor. September 7, at 9: I attended a town day business faire today in MA. I thought I was walking up to a booth about wine.

It was Mona Vie. I had never heard of it. The representative told me the scanner used the same technology as the Hubble Telescope to measure the rings of Saturn! The thing looks like a cheap pencil sharpener! After that, I let them scan my finger. Got the hard sell on the drink. Just had a full checkup, blood tests and all a few months ago. Who should I believe? September 7, at October 26, at 6: I looked through the article and comments and I must say, as a newby in MLM since January you are wrong at least in a matter of saying that MLM products or binary systems does not work.

MLM is helping people, try to find the Social Business, a Nobel Prize honoured Professor Yunas promotes. It is close to MLM. It is not a pyramid, one buys products and recommend them to others. Two of my friends have made real serious money at Monavie. They are Black Diamonds having lots of Liders Rubies, Emeralds, Diamonds within their organisations. It is much more, as I know many people who sticked from ordinary job to Social Marketing oriented, and they are successfull.

October 26, at 8: Please cite your sources to make your point. And please stay away from an appeal to authority fallacy. Sounds like you are confused. For example, I write dozens of positive articles showing people how to save money: Been there done that says. November 1, at Honorius Adamsky, Could you please correct your spelling, grammar, and syntax before you post your nonsense? November 2, at 7: I agree Napoleon Hill was not involved in any MLM business, but his positive-oriented guideline shows how to be successfull anyway.

And that is the solid base not only for the MLM business. That is why I said the system works. As for the products. I am not a doctor nor a scientist but real examples must to be considered. November 2, at When you graft something good and legal like that with an illegal pyramid scheme of recruiting others to get your money back you get an MLM. However, cigarette salesmen and a den of pick-pockets would also be positive of their industries.

Look into cognitive dissonance. The problem with throwing around names like Yunus and Napoleon Hill is that you are using an appeal to authority fallacy to misrepresent them as approving of MLM… when they did not. I could go to the annual convention and meet them as well. Distributors always have anonymous friends who are doctors who show examples, but there are never any concrete documented examples. The blood tests are usually things like TBARS which is not proof of helping anything.

You say that real examples must be considered. December 6, at I know this is not adding much to the thread, so I will apologize now, but could not help myself and felt I should at least thank you Jeanie for sharing, you too Vogel, for making me laugh, that is hysterical. December 6, at 6: December 17, at I work for a packaging company who makes packaging for companies like MV. Couple of points from my perspective: It sounds like you may have a case to pursue.

I go to Salt Lake are for work every month and the shear amount of jobs that companies like these make are staggering. The SLC economy is doing quite well thanks in large part to the rotating amount of MLM companies there. Accountants, bottle suppliers, box makers, construction for new buildings, label printers, marketing firms, networking companies, lawyers, etc…fighting against something online is your perogative, but what will it actually accomplish? Say you succeed an tear down every MLM.

Basically, a crap load of people are out of work or hurting financially. Like I said, I have never participated in, endorsed, purchased, or sold any of these items from any of the companies.

However, it seems to me like your vendetta is vindictive and short sided. If your goal is educate the public, then great. Is it really all that horrible to buy these things like tobacco is? Or is it just poor financial decisions? Because it makes them feel good. People overpay for crap all the time and all they are getting is a false hope for something better. Houses, cars, computers, clothes, juice, watches, furniture.

I can tell you what happens to me; My family and the company I work for lose money. Just a different perspective that you may not have considered.

Hard working Americans providing services and products lose if you win. And what do you win?

It's Just Money: Is Mona Vie a Scam or the Real Deal?

Point of long rant? December 17, at 1: Not sure why you would put this in there. Keep in mind the FTC shut down Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing earlier this year: Some are direct from corporate, but a majority are from their sales force which are for legal purposes similar to independent contractors.

Getting into the economics of it, the point you make is a little silly. Enron employed a lot of people. Why not just let that go?

These are not typically your white-color businessmen, but people who can least afford it… people who are desperate for any kind of income. That money will most likely get used to buy things. Hey it can buy a lot more juice, which requires a lot more bottle suppliers and label makers. That in turn will create many more jobs that what you are see today. You could even find that with all the new demand for product that your company has more business than it ever expected and passing it on to the employees in the form of a raise.

In short, all this money would either find its way back in the economy or in desperately needed savings. When the FTC has warned multiple times that these can be pyramid schemes, and even shut down a few, they should know that they are built on a house of cards. I presume bottle and label makers will continue to make products for other companies.

I presume that the lawyers if they were any good will find jobs elsewhere. In my opinion, SLC has built that MLM economy by defrauding the rest of America… and even expanding it to the rest of the world. People know what they are getting into with tobacco. Cars are the same way. These products compete against each other in a fair market. Spend some time reading this site. December 17, at 2: How do you distinguish? That short question has a long answer.

Even if I did, most do not make the necessary information available for one to know. For the most part.

They have never taught MLM or Network Marketing at Harvard. So here we are, just a few days shy of 30 years later, and almost 20 years after the Harvard-MLM rumor had been debunked… and people are still trying to spread it. What about that seems legitimate to you? The meth thing was to show how ridiculous it is to compare the two. One is punishable by law, the other MLM juice is simply people taking risks to make money and sell a product.

The Madoff thing is a perfect example! He did create jobs, but then was punished by the law. We have a system of justice that can be used. This article, though well documented, cited, and researched, will ultimately not put a sizable dent in the industry. Will a few people read it and change their minds, yeah. Those are the people that would need protecting if this is so bad and this forum is a poor way to protect them.

If you want to get rid of the industry all together, then stop writing and start acting. Anything worthwhile is going to be difficult. Which has some value, but not what it takes to make the change you claim to be for. They are some of the fastest growing companies in the world…. I guess my question is this, is all this work really accomplishing what you want to accomplish?

Seems like a lot to go through just to prove a point. Like you are looking for a teacher to grade your website and give you an A for research and authorship. December 17, at 3: I think with the Meth thing you confused an illegal product with an illegal distribution method.

Feel free to use the system of justice and prove MonaVie wrong in a court of law. I put forth a blue-print for you. If you have the money to do it, then please go ahead. However, I have had people in various countries I think Singapore was actually one of them see this site and ask me to help them publish it in their country.

Maybe that has helped a few people in Singapore. If you can think of a better way to protect them with our resources available, please suggest it. You mentioned before that you are not a lawyer.

In fact, you reminded me that back in someone did take MonaVie to court. I almost forgot about it and just now looked it up. You might wonder what ever happened to the lawsuit.

Well MonaVie settled the case admitting no wrong doing, and created a 4. I think you greatly underestimate the value of educating people. So now you want me to spend billions going after all of them in court?

You say that these companies are growing, but have you looked at Google Trends for MonaVie? You might be interested to know that I published the article in April of , and you can see that from the first comment placed. Then again, this should come as no surprise as One24 quickly fizzled when I wrote about them. Their latest Google Trends is 0. December 17, at 5: I appreciate the discourse on this topic.

As far as the growth of the industry, I only see if from my end…the companies I do work for have increased their sales over the past couple of years. If they are making false claims, then they are illegal. If these are ponzi schemes then they are illegal. So, yes, the drug analogy still holds true. As far as the police not stopping crime, I agree with you! They should fight crime.

I know plenty of police men. You know how they fight crime?? Ready…they arrest and prosecute bad guys. You know what they do? I only care enough about this conversation to write a few posts.

If I did, I would refute your claims if I could , claim slander, and take you to court or have you arrested. Getting into a verbal spat in the comment section of a website will hardly do anything. Education is important, but who are you educating? The people who want it, or the people who need it? Some friends of mine where in Uganda and noticed there were child soldiers being exploited. They filmed a video and brought it to the US to educate. However, education was not the end goal. The end goal was to end child soldiers.

You know what they did, wrote their senators, congressmen, and foreign leaders. Traveled all around the country, got onto Oprah, got a bill passed through the US legislation and signed by the president, got written into UN policy and have effectively crippled the LRA advancements. They had no budget, but found friends who did. You just need to find wealthy friends who are passionate about the same things you are.

The google trend is gauging interest in internet searches, not company value. Monavie is down in overall sales because the industry is cyclical. The top distributors go from one company to the next.

The people making all the products for these companies. I did your same google trend search and many of these companies are stable and growing over the same time period.

Mary Kay, Avon, Forever Living, Usana, 4Life, Zija, Isagenix, Nuskin. All up or stable over that same period of time. Clearly, you are making money of this site. I good goal to say the least. It may not have started that way, but you have found a way to profit here. You have advertisers on here who are likely paying you to be here.

According to spyfu and cutestat. Not a bad little deal for you. These numbers are almost year old and likely up if user engagement is up. December 17, at 7: I feel pretty good in my success rate. I think meth is taking it a step too far. Again the refresher on that is at the FTC website: Same thing with these companies.

Making the information available and helping consumers educate themselves is certainly the first step. One of the creators of the video ended up having to be taken to the mental hospital. If you want to reach people interested in MLM full-time go see the previous website or MLM The Truth.

I know that the Google Trend gauges interest and not value. I cited other metrics for the other MLMs that I have covered significantly. Funny thing about website valuations… they are never very reliable. Look at a bunch of bloggers laugh at one company trying to value it: You would be wrong in your guess that making money is my main goal with this website.

I made more from my websites before I started writing about MLM. Banks, mortgage brokers, and other finance companies pay a lot more for advertising than juice companies — especially ones who prefer to use MLM instead of traditional advertising. I sacrifice a ton of time engaging in these comments and that does impact the amount of money I can make from personal finance articles. I had a friend sell his site bargaineering. Two of my other friends GetRichSlowly. I have effectively given up the opportunity to do what they did to help educate people about MLM.

Quite often, I lament how much easier my life would have be if I had never heard of MLM. Clearly teachers should love children and work for free, right? How dare they accept payment for their work educating others?!?! They expose scams and they are paid. January 30, at 9: I go to work 10 hours a day and I take and get off work I am not as tired as I use to be. January 30, at Your a disingenuous little weasel employing gross fallacies in a pathetic bid to undermine the article.

December 17, at 8: I contended that mlm was growing as an industry. Not the people you cover. Claiming you led to there demise is fine, but the people just move on. Your cop logic is the Same as people who say that the mlm stuff has helped them.

You can only dream about making the impact that invisible children has done. And Jason is doing great now. Keep being awesome and bringing such insightful dialogue to the conversation. No matter what people say, you are a winner. December 17, at 9: If you are correct that MLM is a growing industry and I covered growing MLM companies at the time which is true of One24, MonaVie, ViSalus, and LifeVantage.

Some of the people in the MLMs that are collapsing move on, but not necessarily all of them. I think you need to review the cop logic. Fighting MLM, like fighting crime, is not an all-or-nothing proposition.

Then there is the Education thing…. Who are you attempting to educate? What is your passive aggressive somewhat obscure motive in all this? Maybe because you just like to say things and see yourself talk a lot? Just thought I would educate you a little bit, one educator to another. Let me try it……. I really admire being able to know all those capitalistic things like that. And how can I forget, the comment that started it all…. I only relish the discourse we are having.

But since you appear to be wandering around a bit I thought I would join you on the walk. I explained my connection already, I print things for them all or try to, home skillet. I probably make more money off the products then the people who sell them, like the website owner does.

My reason for engaging here is morbid curiosity. I was doing research for a meeting and stumbled over here. The only other place you find such determination to convince others they are right is on religion sites. Oh Capitalist, your words…they wound me. Whatever will I do, having been judged and found lacking by a disgusting piece of sub-human gutter trash? Guys with passion and no money making an impact. December 18, at 9: You quickly moved on from the fraud discussion when you were presented with it.

I thought we established that I am making a big impactimpact at least by the best tools we have to measure. The Invisible Children is a much larger organization of people fighting a group that has considerably few supporters and I think considerably less than billion a year in revenue. Their cause was a lot more localized. There are probably several more reasons why it is a ridiculous comparison.

I liked your original economic thought as it was slightly unique, but it was easy to blow out of the water. December 18, at I have been drinking the juice for 7 years.. December 18, at 1: You may look at my more recent review of the NutriBullet and see that I put fruit in a blender too. You ask where again the problem is. Invisible Children started with nothing more than a video camera and a cause. Their challenge was to get the US Governement and UN to act to end a substantial problem.

When they started, they had 3 dudes who were college students. I would argue that what they did is harder than taking Monavie to court. I have no problems with the scholarship and point of your writings, I have said multiple times that the majority of American industry is simply semi fraudulently persuading people to purchase their products. Lexus has ads that promise you a better life if you buy their cars. Almost all marketing in this case including multi level is based on an unsubstantiated or barely substantiated promise of a better life.

You have basically proven that Mona Vie is just another company amongst many. Why pick them out? When I ask myself, why would a guy spend so much time focusing on a few companies? The answer is that they are easy targets for you to make some money off of. You have done a great job creating a group of followers, who then go tell their friends to come back and read. The more unique users and readers, the more American Express pays you to advertise.

It sounds like you and I would have a good time discussing this over a beer and would probably have a much more meaningful conversation than can be had over the internet. You will never convince me that you are doing all you can to bring these companies to their knees and I will never convince you that this is all quite silly and not accomplishing much. You may now have the last word as I have clearly lost this argument, but what did you win?

Regardless of how convincing you may be logically. We celebrate the lives of people who make real change to real problems and do whatever it takes. That will never be me. It will never be you. We both lack conviction and desire.

Your view of the size of the problem and your conviction to change that problem are indicated by the length you will go to end it. It IS however, a good way to get followers and make money, so press on, brother, towards your capitalistic end! December 18, at 2: MLM is an entire ball of wax.

You have MLM companies giving politicians money to influence decisions in their favor. I never made an acknowledged that there is a better way to challenge the industry. They have two attorneys right there. As for the time I spend focusing on a few companies? I simply engage in the discussion as I do with all my articles.

During that time a lot of information about how the company and its distributors are defrauding people have come to the forefront. I wish you the best of luck. Let me know how it goes for you. What they get is people like Pat, who a few comments above tried to say that Harvard teaches MLM… a confirmed falsehood that has been repeated for nearly 30 years now. Some form of consumer protection exists in just about every civilized country. Otherwise, perhaps you should embrace it.

Maybe that makes it easier for you whose ambition seems to boil down to printing labels or some such. His logic is inconsistent with capitalism, which basically dictates that the fittest survive. If a company like Monavie is so vulnerable to criticism that they can be killed by it, then the company deserves to die. The law of the jungle is harsh. What capitalist is arguing for instead is protectionism or stronger unions or something along those lines, where the jobs of bottlers and packagers are protected even though the company that pays them is unfit to compete in the marketplace.

Not surprising coming from a Monavie shill. You sound like a fine young gentleman with lots of friends. You totally nailed me. Congratulations on your fine win. Since you are such a winner with lots of friends…. I have a great business opportunity for you to make lots of money and be healthy!

I cannot prove that it will ever work, but I do know that you will likely lose all your friends pursuing this dream. All i see are a lot of wild fruits… i say wild because many of them are not farmed? The lack of water in the label has been covered in these comments in the past. The point is that there is indeed water whether the label says it or not. No one is debating this to my knowledge.

Are you going to argue with the court documents or the newspaper that I cited in the article about it? You know that the fruits are indeed farmed, right? If you really want to understand why it seems to work so well for so many people, you need to understand the same is true for MLM health products that contain none of these fruits like ASEA and Protandim.

December 18, at 3: Since you are such a winner with lots of friends. To that, you reply back with this silly example of sarcastic love bombing. December 18, at 6: If you were a true capitalist, and supported free markets etc. What better way to antagnonize an opposing viewpoint than to enter its realm and divide its sheep by posing as freindly fire.

Or, you are one of those libra types that takes great pride in badgering the establishment just to amuse and bemuse. If under the age of 40 and from pretty much any colledge you probably suffer a serious taint problem. You are clear and articulate though…. I suspect you know full well that what you do and say is subterfuge regardless of your age or education.

If you are inclined to think otherwise I guess we keep having these chats as long as you are up for it. I accept it, use it for mixer. The MX Sizzler is good, or the EMV El Presidente.

My super favorite is the Active Absinthe Monkey Gland.. So do I win a prize too? I am creative and funny and garsh darn it people know me.

Or do I get discarded as a school yard dolt …? December 18, at 7: Vogel, As a rule of thumb, nobody who resorts to name calling is serious about engaging in a debate. You have called me an idiotic shill and a dick. The debate you seek will not happen here. You clearly have me figured out already. You are the winner because you are a winner in general. Use your eyes, not your thumb. I have already established the seriousness of my interest in debating this subject through my many past contributions to date.

Basically, being — a dick. February 6, at 8: My grandfather has always had bad cholesterol and blood pressure since he had a doctors app last week after taking Monavie for around 5 months.

He stopped taking his cholesterol and blood pressure meds half way through. February 6, at October 11, at 1: We both had positive health benefits from it, just entirely different ones.

He got great sleep again, had more energy and it cleared his chronic sinus issues. I am lactose intolerant and seem to suffer from an over stimulated bowel. This product helped my digestive issues and made me the most regular I had been in years. We were both very pleased with our results. Also, it was interesting that it effected us both so differently. October 11, at 6: February 7, at 8: Honestly I feel sorry for you. So you know my life better than me? Keep in mind, I wrote an article detailing my connection MonaVie here: February 7, at This juice will probably make it so my children in the near future will be able to meet their great grandfather.

Ya just read it and you obviously changed your mind since then my grandfather is benefiting from it so it is good enough for me everyone has their own opinion.

I only have my aunt under me and I am just in it for the energy drinks they are cheaper and healthier than buying a monster a day. So there you go, the inventor of the product is calling your claim bogus. February 7, at 1: February 7, at 7: Surely, you trust him. Feel free to come back and fill us in on your conversation with the inventor. I highly doubt that you will. February 14, at 5: February 14, at 6: February 15, at 4: February 20, at 7: Whatever it is, Monavie is a good product.

I have witnessed it and I have tried it. It does not matter what kind of negative research you have don e on Monavie, one way or the other, Monavie has a lot of health benefits and I have seen people overcome some of their long term illness by drinking Monavie. Lazy Man, from what I have read about your comments, you seems to be very vengeful and full of hatred for Monavie.

There are so many MLM health drink based companies around, why target Monavie? February 20, at 8: If you read the beginning of the article they pitched the product to my wife who told me about it. I have no motivation for revenge, never paid them a single dollar.

February 20, at Dana Wong, Jesse Willms, had a close connection and for much of the time was not afraid to use her own name. I will say that I highly doubt the email address Wong left is accurate.

February 21, at 6: Nobody says that MonaVie cure cancer! You are just lazy twat Jealous about people who work hard to succeed in this busines. Monavie is really working!! February 21, at 9: Oh how quickly we forget MonaVie distributors putting fake oncologists in scrubs and pitching the product as a treatment for cancer: March 9, at 2: But, it might be a good idea to do a little research of your own to see if there is an equal or better solution for far less money.

A large store chain has a supply for the same type of product. Here is where UseLogic comes into play. The first couple questions I give anyone when looking at these types of set ups and scenarios.

Because, that is the only way these other people get paid while the person that sold product way down at the bottom. Are you getting what you paid for? Or, are you over paying for a product or service that is comparable by other mfrs? In relation to the product being discussed here, how could you grow that much Acai that fast with out it being farmed? One way would be to have minor amount as the ingredient, while diverting from that fact by listing all the other ingredients.

Lot of which is not foreign to us in the US. Which leads me back to a question. Are you getting what you are paying for? March 9, at 7: I just learned that Niles was released from prison in November after a Florida Appeals Court upheld, on a technicality, his appeal of a previous conviction for molestation of a minor.

The docket also mentions that Rainey had previously represented the father of the two girls that Niles molested. One remarkable detail that I stumbled on while reading the latest appeal docket was that it mentioned the following in reference to the criminal act:.

This is remarkably similar to the modus operandi in the crime that Niles was convicted for while serving in the California National Guard. The appeals docket for that case states:. According to OF, appellant claimed that her clothes were inhibiting the benefit of the massage, and he began removing them, despite her protests.

March 9, at 8: March 9, at May 10, at 2: I joined Monavie and left them after one month. The juice they sell goes off very quickly with green slimey bits floating about in it. I complained to Monavie about this and there reply was make sure I keep the drink the fridge, which I was doing. Three bottles of the juice went rotten with these horrible green slimey bits in it. I was ashamed when I poured out this juice to a potential customer which Monavie like to call prospects.

The top salesmen in this company use language that you will find in books on Neuro linguistic programming, this language is used to make people believe in the product. On the training courses that Monavie do they explain to you that you must never mention Monavie without giving a compliment to the potential customer first.

This flattering and boosting up of the persons ego is to trick the potential customer into believing that they are dealing with an honest person. Its the use of language to build trust. Manipulation of the potential customer. Paul McKenna the hypnotist would love these guys. May 23, at 3: For God Sake, Stop selling this products, it contains sodium benzoate and vitamin C and is carcinogenic.

My mom got stage 1 breast cancer and went to surgery, Doctor said she is now cancer free. I bought this Monavie for her to drink then a few months later her condition worsen. For God Sake, stop selling this products and stop claiming it cures cancer because it contain acai berry.

Bear in mind Sodium Benzoate is dangerous to human health. May 23, at 5: Monavie is way over priced and people who have no idea how an mlm company works, gets sucked in to try the juice, which for the price lol you can go to a lot of places and purchase better juice for a lot cheaper, when they join all hyped, they then realize to even be able to keep commissions you have to be on autoship, when they hear no after no doing the boring old outdated methods they soon realize it is hard that way for the price of the juice.

Who really wants to carry around party cups and bottles of Monavie lol.. If someone asked me, I would literally laugh and tell them there is a better way of marketing, it looks desperate to me and they have to stop you to try their juice. I am not saying this way does not work, everyone has their own way. But in all honesty, there are better home based businesses out there that are more affordable and easier to market, and there are home business that can make you a lot of money without even recruiting one person into the business.

I wish anyone who has started with Monavie the best of luck, but it is not for me. And I agree with the above comments too. July 8, at 6: Seems the founders were ready to get out of there. The management team they have in place seems clueless. This new mynt thing is a total joke. July 24, at I enjoyed reading your valuable info which I too hope will help educate the public about MLM schemes.

I have a friend who was involved in Mona vie and has since dropped off that wagon and jumped unto the next, ASEA. I hope that she will see that there is no light at the end of that tunnel either. August 5, at 5: People are signing up for commitments of over zl per month in a country where that is a half of their salary outside of Warsaw where there are rich people. Please please get a translation into Polish!

August 6, at August 13, at Brig Hart has launched his own scam called Mommys Club or The Healthy Home Company: The products are supposed to be healthy yet the first one I looked is shampoo that has Sodium Benzoate and yet it claims: And the prices are INSANE, typical Brig Hart.

August 24, at 9: My sick father had used Acai juice called zadly which stronger than monavie the results were great: September 18, at Multi-level marketing is perfectly legit and something Forbes writes about as a lucrative option for a home-based business, where money is exchanged for goods or services. Or the personal products you use on your face, skin and even toothpaste. There are 11 chemicals that the FDA bans from these products and there are over 80, being used.

September 18, at 3: Actually if you research pyramid schemes, you know that goods and services can be exchanged. For example, the FTC shut down the MLM, Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing because it was in their professional opinion a pyramid scheme.

They convinced the judicial system to shut them down. If the money you make is based on your sales to the public, it may be a legitimate multilevel marketing plan. It is like interviewing those who won the lottery to determine if buying lottery tickets are a viable investment opportunity — it is not.

There are enough people arguing about Monsanto. I like the website The Good Human who has done that. My opinion is protected speech by the first amendment. September 19, at 6: LazyMan, Your name fits you perfectly…You are definitely a talker and NOT a Walker. You need to get bitch-slapped. September 20, at There are statues of critics: September 21, at If you have any recommendations for energy besides coffee let me know. September 21, at 9: You can get caffeine many places fairly cheaply.

Caffeine is outside the topic of this post. I highly recommend the book. The book points out that some research suggests energy may be more mental than physical. September 22, at Thank you for the book recommendation though ordered it with my amazon points. There are some nuts out there who lean on one side or the other and will slam me whatever side I went to. Cheap caffeine pills make sure you know how much you are taking is one very cheap option that is not coffee.

You can read about it here: MonaVie EMV, Red Bull, Sugar, and Caffeine and MonaVie EMV Lite: Now With Less Energy? The articles are a little old and the links may or may not work, but the points are still relevant. I would have worked more of the energy drink and weight loss formulas into this article, but it was already long and I think made things fairly clear.

MonaVie has recently created the Mynt program to target young adults and students and sell them energy drinks. They are copying the Vemma Verge scam that Today Show covered here. The companies realize that students will overpay a buck or two per drink and recruit others, which is profitable for them. As Harpers magazine wrote here: Sorry, that was long.

September 22, at 5: I was just in Monavie to try and make some extra money in a way and I went toward the energy drinks because I figured they were better for you in some way than traditional energy drinks. Also did the math and it was cheaper for me to buy two cases of their energy drinks than to buy 1 monster a day like I used to.

Now I just buy Arizona green tea since it is healthier at least I think it is than trying to drink energy drinks or colas. September 23, at 7: Save Money on Energy Drinks and Caffeine. Just add it to water. If you go with the caffeine pill route, you can get costs down to just a couple of dollars without additives of any kind. I get arizona 1 dollar for a big can of it well 1.

Which really is better than monster here which was 2. I was big on the taste of monster I've seen dollar stores sell full throttle which aren't healthy but taste decent. September 23, at The only thing I was concerned about was the sugar.

Some of them have a ton. September 23, at 1: Another good substitute is rock sugar or honey. I normally look out for the sales on teavana since I prefer loose leaf teas. September 25, at September 25, at 8: Well, since the MonaVie distributors seem to concede defeat in the discussion, might as well help people with legitimate at least somewhat related questions.

September 26, at 5: That makes me chuckle…. September 26, at 7: I think most of the new comments are going there. October 30, at 9: January 5, at January 5, at 1: This is really amazing stuff. For years he was the one defending MonaVie when people pointed out the obvious problems in the scam. The company is practically nonexistent: January 7, at Yep, he joined Forever Green. The company makes Xpress Strips that appear to be a heating pack.

MonaVie appointed Randy Schroeder as President of the North America Market in March when the company was near the peak of its success. March 16, at Looks like Jeunesse will be making the big announcement today that they have purchased the rights to MonaVie.

March 16, at 4: What an ugly Google Trends it has been on for the last several years: March 16, at 5: It sounds like they are already starting the PR campaign about the march of sales up to a billion dollars.

Yet nothing has materially changed other than the adding of two companies in steep decline. June 24, at 6: Why is it that every time Larsen drags his wife onto the stage she looks like a Stepford wife — a nodding bobble-head marionette. And WTF is up with that haircut??? Was she paying tribute to the cum-in-the-hair scene from Something About Mary? Larsen the con artist fleeced people out of millions of dollars with a scam that was knowingly predicated on pure BS from day one.

What a F-ing creep! I long for the day that we hear news of Mr. Larceny receiving a long overdue prison sentence. July 1, at 2: Monavie is a miracle juice! My friends Dad had stage 4 liver cancer ,my friend heard about monavie ordered some for him and he has no sign of cancer. Praise God for this healing juice! No More Claiming Mona Vie Cures Cancer! July 17, at It became already clear to me that monavie was questionable the minute when I saw refridgerated acai berry juice in the supermarkets.

August 21, at I do not care what you say about Monavie. Who cares if they want to make money. I love the product and am thankful it is offered to help those who have health issues like me. August 21, at 7: October 3, at 3: Lazy Hazy Days says.

October 6, at 5: Oh well looks like Lazy and his henchfolk will need to find a new teat to suckle on. I guess link revenue is down since your ride is over huh. October 6, at 7: Actually, I made more money before I spent time covering MLM. Ads for financial companies on financial articles pay a lot better.

January 13, at 1: This has nothing to do with network marketing per se. The same sort of thing happened during the car industry crisis. The automotive industry established certain commissions or bonuses to car dealers for doing things like setting up different dealerships and sub-dealers. When the car crisis hit and sales at the bottom end dropped, the car manufacturers could no longer pay some of these bonuses and dealer type commissions.

The result was that dealerships closed or moved on. In similar fashion, Monavie had bonuses and commissions for leadership. Distributors were paid based upon how well they did at helping others establish businesses. In a binary MLM, when bottom end sales sharply drop, then the higher up leadership bonuses become a VERY big problem.

This is what I meant by top heavy. I stand behind the data published by Yevo. Actual proof would be lab results proving that this data is wrong instead of all of this circumstantial type debate that really is proving next to nothing. Car dealerships are not recruitment pyramid schemes.

They sell product that is in demand at a fair market price. Vogel gave you the math which is better than lab results. Why would you stand behind data of an organization that has clearly been shown by Vogel and others to not be trustworthy? Once again, you are welcome to your opinion, but you give no basis for why anyone should trust it.

Your repeated errors discredit your opinion. January 13, at 2: Both corporations were promising bonuses to businesses for helping setting up other businesses. Now you are the one throwing out red herrings. Corporate promised certain commissions based upon business structure and not sales volume. This is where they screwed up. They felt that by the time their binary matrix grew to a level that those bonuses would be paid that they would have overall sales that easily covered it.

January 13, at 4: I do not know about MonaVie promising bonuses and not being able to pay them, but it was collapsing in July according to top distributors as outlined here: It stabalized [sic] from January through May. I watched my Blue Diamonds [sic] house get Foreclosed on, another Blue Diamonds car was repossessed.

No one on my team including me was qualifying rank. At our Hotel events, I was calling up all the Blue Diamonds, Hawaiian Blue Diamonds and Black Diamonds and no one was making anywhere close to the income disclosure statement. It says nothing about MonaVie refusing to pay them money earned. It says that they were no longer qualifying rank. The FTC appears to have nearly a half a billion dollar yearly budget in the federally approved budget numbers. You claim they have no money to go after MLM violators.

Half a billion dollars is alot of money. If there were so many violators, I would think this budget would be sufficient to at least sent out non-compliance letters that would then show up in their database. Fact is, there are very few in their database. Ergo, the business are in compliance with federal law. Hebrbalife, a single MLM, has billions in profits every year. They can tie up a case in court for years with each side burning millions on lawyers.

The FTC does not have nearly a half billion budget. The FTC usually keeps its intentions hidden until it strikes. Same for when the FTC shut down Vemma. Both those companies operated for around ten years before getting shut down. August 9, at 1: I have mixed feelings about the settlement, as it benefited a few hundred pricks at the top of the pyramid — the same people who were instrumental in scamming thousands of people.

August 9, at 7: August 9, at 6: August 10, at 9: For me, all employees at MV are culpable and many will be just glad to have had an income for a few years followed by a 30k payoff and all without that nasty public publicity, eh? They must be feeling like the train drivers into Auschwitz. August 10, at 3: August 10, at 4: August 11, at I still have not been attacked by a bear.

August 11, at 5: Lazy Man, Candace, Strangely, Lattimore — the dream team reunion! August 12, at 6: September 14, at 5: Especially, since it works. This is exactly my point. When you have all the money and resources at your disposal, drinking water can be discredited, oh it already has been.

September 15, at 9: One of the more than countries would be showing it. November 4, at 6: They should have put that POS Larsen behind bars after the ignominious demise of Royal Tongan Limu. If that had happened, it would have saved the world from the horror story known as Monavie, as well as this latest ill-conceived endeavor.

December 7, at Never had any issues with Monavie. It was actually the only thing that helpe dme lose 30 lbs. But its not a scam IMHO it has good health effects and helpe dme a lot.

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Keep signing up suckers; you are paying for my new car. I beef up on Vitamin C when I have a cold or the flu. It helps a lot.